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Erik Palmstierna's Presentation of Spirit Teachings - Part Six

By:Adila
Date: Sun,16 Nov 2014
Submitter:Richard Rowley
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Here are further communications presented by Erik Palmstierna to the Archbishop's Committee in 1938.

QUESTION: Is it true that we were not conscious of being part of God before we became conscious ?

ANSWER: Are you conscious now that you are part of God ? No, you are not, so you cannot know whether you will not realise when you reach high up that you were always part of him. Do not be small and judge after what only your eyes and ears can tell.

QUESTION: The word ''creation'' loses its meaning if nothing happens in the act of creation.

ANSWER: We want to tell you that there is much which will seem to you contradictory for as you and we advance a further knowledge is acquired, but essentially the main things will not and are not changing. It would have been too early at the first stage to go into deep details concerning creation. Even now it seems to us that it gives you difficulty in many respects.

The Great One is creation and everything out of that creation is created, though it always was and will be. Now that you have a stronger idea of the Great One perhaps you will find it easier to grasp the meaning of the word ''creation.'' It is used more for earthly purpose than for spiritual existence because up here one knows and realises the oneness with God and that there is no purpose of being created, but the cause is that the eternal produces eternally, and as he is that force, which is the essence of force, produces other forces which - if in contact with the main force - become again or continue to be part of it.

Now we stated previously that each spirit is a spark of God, hence we say each spark creates a spirit, but that spark always was and always will be, so that if we reflect, we understand clearer that, though we seem to come away with the spark from God, we, through that magnetic bond we call the heavenly circle, are still the same as before the spark left and it is that which eventually returns, yet is absolutely individual.

QUESTION: Was it not individual as a spark ?

ANSWER: Oh, yes. That is what you on earth can never and will never understand and therefore just accept it. You still imagine God something small. We do not mean quite the earthly conception of small, yet small enough to compare things`with the great doings of great souls on earth. There you make your mistake. We cannot grasp the vastness of the Great One and the truth that he embraces the universe and that his circle combines all. What is outside this circle is the field of evil which as it is ultimately consumed, because it is perishable, we call it an illusion.

We told you that by and by we shall tell you more and more difficult facts, so you must think about our statements and draw your own conclusions.

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About Jesus, the Buddha and other true prophets.

God was the father of Christ but not in the sense you believe. We are all sons and daughters of him, though when you arrive to purification, man and woman become one, but the Great One is in them. Christ wanted us to understand that, but men made a complicated story of the real truth. Christ was and is the nearest to the Great One and his incomparable love for spirits and souls on earth was so great that he wished to make the supreme sacrifice

The only spirit who was in direct contact with God was Christ. Christ was the one and only who from birth was perfectly free from any malice, any envy or personal ambition, and wholly enveloped in love of the divine sort, finding comfort in helping mankind. He was the interpreter of God, but religion as it stands is completely ignorant of the truth. No man before or since had the tolerance that Christ had and that was because he followed his father and the father of you all in that respect.

Christ was able to listen to his inner voice, which he knew was the direct voice of God. The same happened to Buddha. That their teachings are somewhat alike is not to be wondered at considering that both listened to the same voice. They each had their own imagination, suiting the people of their time.

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The Life of Spirits in ''heaven.'' or the spirit worlds.

Here thought can be seen, so when you come to us, you will be able to see anyone you wish and in a magnificent light. On earth some of you call it ''astral.'' The ether is a chemical substance. The spirit bodies are partly woven from ether, but for those who go higher, ether is not necessary

You often wonder if one has a body up here and now perhaps you will more clearly understand when we say that we have a body up here, but not from flesh, which is material, but is a body of light in waves and in eternal harmony with the spirit which makes it work and not like on earth, where the body makes or prevents the working of the soul. The spirit, when it arrives up here, is like a light, reflected by the sun. Its speed cannot be understood by man on earth. It is practically everywhere simultaneously and is constant not being associated with time.

The purer the spirit is, the brighter is the shine of the light that clads it.

The range of colour changes as we progress. The deeper the past - yet it must always remain clear - the higher the soul is.

Up here everyone is clothed in their own light and it would be impossible to copy your fellow spirit as his garment is the outcome of his soul. No earthly garment can have the variety of each spirit up here, as their colours which are their clothes, scintillate in billions of colours according to the development of your feelings, etc.

The speed of spirits is light. That is quite easy to grasp, even on earth. A spirit is not material, as you well know. It is neither a substance nor a liquid. It is something that never ceases to vibrate and is so swift that it can be everywhere almost simultaneously. Of course this refers to high spirits. Now that swiftness creates light, therefore we say that the speed of spirits is

light. It is not the kind lf light you know, so that cannot be grasped. It is much more powerful and is a creative power.

Remember the word enlightenment descended from the high spheres meaning the spirit getting lighter from reaching more light from the Great One, therefore becoming more celestial.

QUESTION: Is there anything comparable to death on earth, when a Spirit moves from one sphere to a higher ?

ANSWER: No, for the spirit, once it is on the way of progress there is no transformation of a similar kind, as that which you call death on earth. There is naturally a change as it progresses, but you can always descend to your earlier stage and are not cut off like when a sould - the ever lining - leaves the flesh. You become more transparent, your light aquires a brightershine, a wider vibration, which improves, as you advance. The spirit is always recognisable, once it is free from the body, contrary to earth where always or nearly always you recognise the body, but hardly ever the soul or the spirit.

There is no reason why the spirit should undergo similar changes as when on earth. The instant you recognise that your aim is towards the light of Hod, contrary to earth where always or nearly always you recognise the body, but hardly ever the soul or the spirit.

There is no reason why the spirit should undergo similar changes as when on earth. The instant you recognise that your aim is towards the light of God, a metamorphosis is not needed.

What is life on earth, what is a metamorphosis ? It is the hiding, the concealing of your true self as compared to when you enter the spirit life. We mean and talk of the spirits with true love in them. Well, when you enter that life there cannot be any concealment as you are drifting towards the real truth. We seem to emphasis this statement rather strongly but we want to be absolutely clear and unhesitating about it.

When the souls arrive up here they are after a while shown what their spirits, after they have received instructions, will have to do.

when the soul leaves the body, the desires change.

Life here is a constant occupation. We have no flesh, so there is no need for food and in consequence no time is wasted on such matters. If we wish for a distraction, we can hear music of a kind you get only glimpses of on earth, and poetry more divine than you can conceive. Politics, finance, money have no place here. Nothing is an effort here.. Our work is continually inspired by love and you could not understand it as long as you are in the flesh.

Spirit life is full of activity and everyone has a special work to do. Your love for any sort of art remains with you forever and up here develops to a much higher form. Likings for earthly amusements if you are a spirit that raised to great heights whilst on earth, in time lose their attraction and you live only for love, charity and beauty. What flow of melodies, what golden rhymes here. Your soul will be submerged in glory, which is of a quality inexplicable to souls on earth. All have to go through gradual lessons. For them do not get anxious. You are closely helped by all good spirits once you get here.

Your inventive power is the action of your spirit and knows the capacity of your abilities and as everyone is an individual spirit and works in that line, there cannot be a conflict between spirits and everyone goes on in his progress. Of course this refers to spirits in such spheres where goodness prevails. With those under the power of evi, things are dark and in chaos to our aspect (from our point of view).

Everything on earth, though great, is but a minute fraction of the wonders you shall see and by and by achieve yourself. All on earth is a preparation for the real work that is awaiting you on your arrival. The creations on earth are only small divertissements to make men realise what they can expect.

To be continued.
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